How can market forces not be completely obvious, regional wages at $19 an hour. Are there too many pilots or not enough, based on that pay rate supply is pretty good because they are having no trouble filling the jobs. No, we are not all screwed, I was just trying to loosen this conversation up a bit. Until there is a unified front( which is not likely) or profit, wages will not go up. If you look at the track record of the last 15 years and that Major salaries have been decimated it does not inspire much confidence in the future. If you use smaller more friendly words more people will understand