Originally Posted by
subin30
had a midwest jumpseater who had a wise understanding of their unfortunate deal.
if your regional company/ceo (skywest, asa, mesa, pinn, etc) did exactly what republic did to midwest. how would you as the pilot group do anything differently?
- understand you as the pilots have no control over the decision to get 190's.
That is not true. NO other regional has negotiated rates and rules for 190's. Until RAH did it, there was no industry standard for it...
Originally Posted by
subin30
- if your company now decided to get 170's or 190's i'm sure no one would complain or not bid for it.
what does that have to do with taking their jobs? what is the point of that statement... help the rest of us out here...
Originally Posted by
subin30
- you've been with the company for 10 years plus when the pilot group was only 250 flying saabs and jetstreams.
again... what does this have to do with it?
Originally Posted by
subin30
and now getting denied a jumpseat from midwest b/c you are considered scab to them. ofcourse he knew 190's were coming back then.
You are taking their job.... not by walking past their pickline as a newhire of Midwest.... but by your company signing a contract that says you will do all of their flying, and you'll bring your own airplanes to do it... same end result... they didn't hire you directly to replace them, they hired your company to hire you to replace them... same end result... actually worse, since Boeing jobs are being replaced with EMB's...
So, regarding the jumpseat.... what did you expect?
Originally Posted by
subin30
- if not republic. it WILL GO TO SOMEONE ELSE.
Keep telling yourself that. Nobody else negotiated rates for 190's.... that will probably change now, since you guys have lowered the bar so much, others will be forced to compete or lose their jobs because of you too...
Originally Posted by
subin30
again, as a regional guy, if this happened to you and your company. how would it be any different?
Already answered, over and over again, by everybody. if you don't grasp that concept by now, just give up
Originally Posted by
subin30
im hearing words like scab, bottom feeders, worse then gojets, towards republic pilots and f/a's.
You guys should hear yourselves.... you say the same things, and sound exactly like the folks who are already on a really long list that gets passed from pilot to pilot, and is used regularly when deciding to accept jumpseaters or not....
Originally Posted by
subin30
yes, its not fair and sucks to be in midwest shoes, but i dont think republic pilots are scabs. they didn't vote on nothing and have nothing they can actively do to prevent this.
you don't vote on anything to become a sc$%^b.... your actions dictate the title.... as for preventing it... the first chance to do that was in 2003 when your pilot group accepted and negotiated for 190's... the second chance was when you actually showed up to replace another pilot who had been furloughed/locked out.
Originally Posted by
subin30
its not just midwest, history has shown other pilots groups getting hosed nearing the end of their company's existence.
Here you go again, trying to rationalize what you're doing. There is a difference between being bought and merged, and furloughed/locked out and repalced....