Originally Posted by
JetJock16
You're talking scope.................I'm talking whipsaw. Did you or did you not have merger language when SKW purchased you?
We did, but it covered a purchase by another airline with the intent to merge. SKYW, Inc. did not intend to merge the airlines and altered their corporate structure to not trigger that clause in our contract.
Very few airlines have a merger clause that will force an instant merger -- XJT and RAH are the two that I think off off hand. XJT had willing management that agreed to that language, and RAH gave up a lot in their 03 contract to get the language (they have terrible workrules compared to the rest of the industry).
Regardless of the NMB, your 07 TA was passed by the majority thus allowing SKW and ASA to remain separate. ASA's pilots aren't "solely" responsible because 65% of SKW pilots voted down ALPA thus stoping the merger from our end. In short I’m saying that we are where we are because of the shortsightedness of the majority at both airlines.
Our 07 contract (it is no longer a TA once it is ratified by the pilot group) did not cure cancer either. So I guess ASA pilots are responsible for that too?
With a more favorable NMB, one list may be possible this go around. However, everything comes at a price. What are you willing to give up to get it?
I'll give the scope issue to you. As for the “massive concessions” part, believe what you want but they played the game and won by buying you out.
I never said that the SKYW, Inc. purchase was a bad thing for us. I think you would only have to look at Comair to see where we would have been.
However, remember it's the same people that own us that own you. Right now we're getting shafted, but for the whipsaw to continue to work, one airline can't just be taking it in the shorts forever.