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Old 07-15-2009 | 09:13 PM
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To the Acey guys taking the involuntary vacation, shoot me a PM. a couple of us are piling resources on a facebook page, where we can keep in contact and swap job leads, etc.
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Old 07-16-2009 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyASA
According to an email they are offering a retirment plan for qualified individuals. If my calculations are right the max one can expect from an early out lump sum payment is $57,600 + whatever vacation time they have left. They also get flight benefits and COBRA for 18 months.

They are also offering an early out plan as well.

I don't think they'll get too many takers on this, but who knows. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who need to rebuild their 401K for a couple of more years.
While I dont disagree with your assesment, I will say that some older guys would be better off acepting this, its going to take more than a couple years to put 58 grand into a 401K, youll probably never recoup that much in 3-4 years, unless you put about 1200 dollars of your own money a month into that 401K....just an observation, I think if I was the boat I would consider it for sure. Take it lump put it into your IRA.
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Old 07-16-2009 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by samuraiguytn
I think at this point if I heard a Super senior guy, or anyone for that matter taking in ops of furloughs are better for him, so he can make money, I don't think im gonna think twice. Im just gonna sock em. I even may lose the fight. But at least I will have proved my point.
If you'd ever met JA I doubt you'd be socking him. He's about 6 feet tall, about 220, and a Tennessee Country Boy.

I know you're upset about what's going on, but we really need to resist the temptation to turn on our fellow pilots because of it. That sort of thing is management's wet dream.
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Old 07-16-2009 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
If you'd ever met JA I doubt you'd be socking him. He's about 6 feet tall, about 220, and a Tennessee Country Boy.

I know you're upset about what's going on, but we really need to resist the temptation to turn on our fellow pilots because of it. That sort of thing is management's wet dream.
Correct, every airline has bad apples, just be happy that they’re the minority and don’t let them control your MEC otherwise you'll end up like AA back in the 70's.
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Old 07-16-2009 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
If you'd ever met JA I doubt you'd be socking him. He's about 6 feet tall, about 220, and a Tennessee Country Boy.

I know you're upset about what's going on, but we really need to resist the temptation to turn on our fellow pilots because of it. That sort of thing is management's wet dream.
5'9 200LB and U.S. Marine... never walked away from a fight...

BUT I do agree with you!!! Hitting another pilot will end your career, not the way to go! Remember, not all the senior pilots feel this way and many would rather see us still there. They hate the extensions and red arrow days just as much as the junior pilots. This messes up their swaps, drops and trades. They are not immune to getting junior manned. If they need to extend someone and no one junior is available they will get screwed the same.

P.S... never enjoyed the fights... win or lose... still walk away with some bruises.
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Old 07-16-2009 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TPROP4ever
While I dont disagree with your assesment, I will say that some older guys would be better off acepting this, its going to take more than a couple years to put 58 grand into a 401K, youll probably never recoup that much in 3-4 years, unless you put about 1200 dollars of your own money a month into that 401K....just an observation, I think if I was the boat I would consider it for sure. Take it lump put it into your IRA.


Isn't the limit for an IRA $6,000 a year?
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Old 07-16-2009 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyASA
Isn't the limit for an IRA $6,000 a year?
IRA Contribution Limits

YEAR AGE 49 & BELOW AGE 50 & ABOVE
2002-2004 $3,000 $3,500
2005 $4,000 $4,500
2006-2007 $4,000 $5,000
2008 $5,000 $6,000
2009 $5,000 $6,000
2010 Indexed to Inflation Indexed to Inflation

Nope and YUP!
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Old 07-16-2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyASA
According to an email they are offering a retirment plan for qualified individuals. If my calculations are right the max one can expect from an early out lump sum payment is $57,600 + whatever vacation time they have left. They also get flight benefits and COBRA for 18 months.

They are also offering an early out plan as well.

I don't think they'll get too many takers on this, but who knows. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who need to rebuild their 401K for a couple of more years.
and this would be one helluva time to put that kinda money in with the market still sitting idle and waiting to go back up.
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Old 07-16-2009 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
it's almost unethical of skywest management to not have skywest airlines share the furlough pain. It's clear that they have no replacements for the 20 200's. In truth i feel they are slowly downsizing the airline untill it is only a shell of itself.
Pilots in general are not the most business savvy people on earth, but... that is the stupidest, most ridiculous, socialist, ignorant, and meaningless comment I have ever heard ANYWHERE!! ***!!!!! I am left speachless...
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