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Old 07-15-2009 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Whacker77
Over the past few weeks, I have begun to wonder if the new age 65 limit may have contributed to the current employment crisis in the airlines. Certainly, it hasn't had an impact on the economy, but is it possible the rule has played a bigger role in staffing levels than we might have thought?

Had the rule not been instituted in late 2007, we would be in the midst of many reitrements. As such and even as capacity has been reduced, major carriers would still have had to fill spots left open by retirements. In turn, this would have created openings at regional carriers as more experienced captains moved on to more lucrative pay. If nothing else, the onslaught of retirements probably would have mitigated furloughs.

Instead, most pilots reaching the age of 60 have chosen to continuing flying. Because pilots of 60 years of age have many years of seniority, they cost airlines more in pay. Certainly, they're more expensive than the first and second year hires who would have replaced them. Regardless and through no fault of their own, the works have been gummed up and we see the furloughs which continue to be announced.

I don't know if what I have written has any validity, but I thought I would throw it out there.
I agree with all of the above except that which is highlighted. New hire FO’s can't replace senior CA’s………………senior FO’s do. And those senior FO’s more than likely have 12+ years experience which means they are maxed out in pay and therefore it cost the company more when you add upgrade training cost. The savings is in replacing the $137 FO with a $50 FO.

Also think of the training cost associate with the retirement wind fall. Senior 777 CA retires and is backfilled by a 757 CA who then backfilled by a 737 CA who is backfilled by a 757 FO backfilled by a 737 FO…………………………………..then comes the new hire.

Overall it’s cost effective to have these old guys stick around which creates stagnation and prolongs the inevitable. That is unless you’re airlines overstaffed and needs relief. Then they want the old guys to retire so the airline can benefit from stagnant cheaper labor.

What a cluster this industry has become.
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