Originally Posted by
Flyby1206
Since Eagle is wholly owned by AMR I find it hard to believe that it would be cheaper to pay an outside company to do the same flying we do. AMR wins by having its cheap(er) labor in-house. AMR wants other regionals to do feeder flying strictly for whipsaw purposes(especially when 2012 comes around). I am sure at least 1 other carrier will wind up doing feeder flying, but Eagle will do the majority share because that is the most profitable situation.
BS. They want complete flexibility to contract out with the commuter clause and I believe they want to get rid of Eagle rather than sink a lot of money into acquiring new airplanes for AE and dealing with the upcoming labor issues. Just like they want to revenue share with offshore airlines. They want to run a "virtual" airline, not a real one. They also want unlimited 76 seat aircraft which even Delta ALPA with their limp scope doesn't allow. And maybe it's not really the 76 seaters they want but something a little larger that they have more flexibility with.
Besides Eagle service is atrocious. I fly on other regionals and deadhead on Eagle and from my personal experience AE is by far the worst . . . and I'm not saying AA is any shining star with that regard either. And it's got nothing to do with the pilots at either AA or AE, but is a serious management failure, especially at Eagle.
Originally Posted by
Flyby1206
Ok, how about a different angle. Are you willing to give up your pension and take a 15% paycut in order to keep the flying on the APA side? Those will be the two options. Give on scope and get a payraise, or keep the flying for a reduction in your pay/benefits.
BS. How do you know? You don't. You need to put in an expense report to AMR for throwing dud fear grenades for them.
Originally Posted by
Flyby1206
AA isnt going anywhere. Eagle isnt going anywhere. Its just a matter of how much smaller they both will be in the future.
I never said they went out of business because of scope. I stated irrational and emotional decisions were the downfall. All I ask is that everyone takes a real hard look at what is going on at other airlines we are competing against. I'm on your side, I want AA to be successful and profitable. Without AA we at Eagle wouldnt have jobs. And it goes the other way as well.
I hope you're not negotiating for ALPA in 2012. You'd be whipped before you started.
Acrimony aside, I think the final outcome (maybe as much as 2 years from now) will be that scope stays pretty much where it is, there's a moderate pay restoration and an incremental increase in productivity, but certainly not PBS since that involves a small degree of trust. I think Eagle will be divested and the sub-76 seat flying farmed out, and 76 seaters flown by AA albeit probably at a lower than F100 rate. I also don't think there will be a BK nor a strike. I have also lost faith that the Obama administration will do anything but their typical empty PR pap for labor. So, the RLA will remain the same. It's not going to be full 1992 restoration, nor is it going to be a BK contract without the BK. My 2 cents. Some AE guys are saying Bk by Christmas regardless. Either way, that's ok.