Originally Posted by The Juice

A Captain who was not ready to be a Captain and an FO who was not ready to be an FO caused this crash.

If you are sick, you dont work. Colgan had a union at the time of the crash so I do not want to hear any of the "fear of retribution" stuff.

This was the first leg of the first day of trip so I do not see how duty or rest requirements have anything to do with 3407.

Marvin and Becca were simply complacent and not paying attention. As much as I think we need duty and fatigue issues addressed, lets not think that 3407 was anything other than two people not paying attention.