I would hope that if pilots have to wait until ATP mins to get on with an airline they will learn in that period that jumping in on the low-time, fast upgrade airline is not a good idea. With ATP mins comes some realization that you're a valuable person and deserves better than the pay offered at the bottom feeders. I, for one, know way more about this business now at 1,600 hours than I did with a fresh degree and a log book full of hopes and dreams.