Originally Posted by Skypilot
Like I said, all the stuf "Pilots Dissin Pilots" used is based on what someone "thinks" its worth, not what really happened with costs. Hey, if you cant read public documents and do the math, then maybe you shouldnt be in the business of putting out financal opinions.
There is nothing in the documents that breaks out costs by employee group. What is in the 2002 documents, on file with the SEC, is that the company asked the pilots for $660 million in concessions. The 2003 documents, also on file with the SEC, state that the company received $660 million in concessions from the pilots. Do you think the company falsified SEC documents?
Based on the items that were valued, PDP agreed. Of course, there were some items not valued, and that's where PDP stated the cost went from $660 to $936+ million.
Again, that's in documents filed with the SEC.
Further, if an employee group gives $936 million in concessions, and the company goes and gives another employee group raises, it will skew the result.
Originally Posted by Skypilot
As far as the play by play demolishing of Westbrook, go look at C&R. You going to give those guys "equal time" ?
Bob Herbst, who seems to have the most to say about anything PDP puts out regarding numbers, has been offered an opportunity to submit material for PDP publication several times. He has refused the offer each time. No one else has approached PDP regarding "equal time."
Of course, since you think PDP should give the other C&R guys "equal time," do you think APA should give PDP "equal time?"