Pilots Defending the Profession
11-09-2005 | 04:37 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by Skypilot
Just proves that you dont know the diference between net and gross. The only way you can count it against the 03 contract "costing" is if Eagle contributed NET money to AMRs revenue line. Otherwise, its worth diddly-squat to AMR. You just proved they dont, so you cant use that as one of your APA giveaways. trying to have you cake and eat it to. As far as the cost breakdown between employees, the answer is DOT Fm 41. Just showing more of your PDP ignorance.
If you're using something like Schedule P-52, the Pilot/Copilot Flying Ops costs don't begin to tell the tale.
First, the blocks hours flown quarter over quarter are not static. Only in a static environment would you be able to do an "apples to apples" comparison.
Second, the DOT data doesn't take into account many of the concession items that were agreed to and valued by both AMR and APA, such as Scope, Domestic Code Share, International baseline agreement, Increased lock-in period, and Paperless Bids to name a few.
BTW, it seems as though your spell checker still has a few bugs. Perhaps you should upgrade to a newer version.
11-09-2005 | 04:58 PM
#42
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Sky Boy its very Basic, Eagles Cost ARE out running their Revenues!
Just like FLYI has been for the last 18 Months![/B]
AMR Corporation Reports A Third Quarter Loss Of $153 Million
Continued
AMR CORPORATION CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
(in millions, except per share amounts)
(Unaudited)
Excludes $1.9 billion and $1.5 billion of expense incurred related to Regional Affiliates in 2005 and 2004, respectively.
[edited long post, linked to AMR Q3 SEC filing instead of posting lengthy tabular financial data - HSLD ]
Just like FLYI has been for the last 18 Months![/B]
AMR Corporation Reports A Third Quarter Loss Of $153 Million
Continued
AMR CORPORATION CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
(in millions, except per share amounts)
(Unaudited)
Excludes $1.9 billion and $1.5 billion of expense incurred related to Regional Affiliates in 2005 and 2004, respectively.
[edited long post, linked to AMR Q3 SEC filing instead of posting lengthy tabular financial data - HSLD ]
Last edited by HSLD; 11-09-2005 at 06:08 PM.
11-09-2005 | 05:52 PM
#43
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From: B777
This thread has hit a nerve for more than just a few users, which by itself is not a bad thing. A healthy discourse and even a heated debate are welcomed and encouraged here.
That said, we do have an level of civility that we expect from our forum users. As a working pilot, you are welcome on our forum and we appreciate your participation, although I'd request that you make a salient point and argue your case without lowering yourself to name calling.
In case anyone missed the forum rules when registering, check 'em out
I'm not asking anyone to hold back, just take the verbal high road when your "giving them both barrels".
All the best -
That said, we do have an level of civility that we expect from our forum users. As a working pilot, you are welcome on our forum and we appreciate your participation, although I'd request that you make a salient point and argue your case without lowering yourself to name calling.
In case anyone missed the forum rules when registering, check 'em out
I'm not asking anyone to hold back, just take the verbal high road when your "giving them both barrels".
All the best -
11-09-2005 | 08:23 PM
#44
AAmerican Way for AA Pay
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From: B-737 Pilot
Originally Posted by Kill Bill
ALPA has failed MISERABLY in what should be its primary goal: defending the profession. instead, they cower in the corner, sign "partnership agreements" with the devil, and sell us out, airline by airline, in order to keep the dues pipeline open. only a miracle will save us now and the nazis, i mean, "management" have outlawed miracles.
11-12-2005 | 09:17 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by AA777-ER
Sky Boy its very Basic, Eagles Cost ARE out running their Revenues!
Just like FLYI has been for the last 18 Months![/B]
AMR Corporation Reports A Third Quarter Loss Of $153 Million
Continued
AMR CORPORATION CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
(in millions, except per share amounts)
(Unaudited)
Excludes $1.9 billion and $1.5 billion of expense incurred related to Regional Affiliates in 2005 and 2004, respectively.
[edited long post, linked to AMR Q3 SEC filing instead of posting lengthy tabular financial data - HSLD ]
Just like FLYI has been for the last 18 Months![/B]
AMR Corporation Reports A Third Quarter Loss Of $153 Million
Continued
AMR CORPORATION CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
(in millions, except per share amounts)
(Unaudited)
Excludes $1.9 billion and $1.5 billion of expense incurred related to Regional Affiliates in 2005 and 2004, respectively.
[edited long post, linked to AMR Q3 SEC filing instead of posting lengthy tabular financial data - HSLD ]
Of course AMR had a loss, because when the FEED COST $150 million more then it brings in Revenue............................ITs CALLED A LOSS!
ECON 101
Last edited by 777AA; 11-12-2005 at 09:19 AM.
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