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Old 08-23-2009 | 09:55 AM
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Section 24

D. Training/Activation Procedures
1. Except as provided in Section 24.D.2., D.3. and D.4. (below),
required training for a crew position shall be scheduled by
system seniority, senior first, for that crew position.
But.... In Section D.3

3. Training Due To Excess
a. Pilots involuntarily excessed from a crew status shall be
scheduled for training in reverse seniority order. Application
of this paragraph shall not trigger passover pay for the
involuntarily excessed pilots.
Activation procedures apply by crew position (otherwise known as seat going to) EXCEPT when it is training due to excess. So I was wrong about training in seat going to. I came to the conclusion that if training was not in seniority order I thought a passover type pay would be required, then I read the words in italics.

I don't know if Bid to relieve falls under "Training due to Excess".

I am also confused by the last part. It says folks will go in seniority order then it seems to indicate if they don't they cannot get passover pay. Not sure what to make of that.

Did you say the ALPA legal types are not addressing this?

Why is our contract written like a bad TV show?

Last edited by Gunter; 08-23-2009 at 01:02 PM.
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