You bet I am listening. But it the company goes down, it will be for the same reason EAL, etc. went down: The ungodly greed of the unions! And, believe me, I mean myself, too! Yeah, I might be mgt. and if UPS signs a fat contract, and if I am mgt, my pay would go up, too. You see, I would win either way, line or mgt. But, maybe we all would lose, like the man says about a recession in Asia