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Old 11-18-2009 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gbntpilot
I seriously doubt it's true. Probably a leftover webpage some poor college intern in I.T. didn't update.

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Related question: Back in the good 'ole days of NWA and flowing pilots up, I was told that they wouldn't consider applications from any pilot from Mesaba or Compass whose senority number was below the current flowthrough line. The argument was that it circumvented senority. I never quite understood the argument because those applicants below the flow line would basically be treated as if they were off the street, and the guys with the senority to flow would have first dibbs at the available classes anyway. As I understand it, they have to flow a certain number from Compass (first), Mesaba (second), and then hire whatever they need from the street to fill each class. So...

#1. Is that correct or just another product of the rumor mill?

#2. Is this policy written somewhere? Is this coming from the companies involved or ALPA?

#3. If it is/was true, will it apply at Delta also, since the flowthrough agreement was carried over?

This might be something we just won't know for sure until Delta actually starts hiring and flowing again. Any guesses?

**This is simply a question. I'm under no illusion of getting on with Delta, even if they were hiring, so don't look at my 900 FO position and launch into some flame about a sense of entitlement, SJS, or whatever the rant of the day seems to be. Sorry, but at least on these forums I feel like I always need a disclaimer to ask an honest question. I'm just curious in the post-merger world if Delta is even a possibility for anyone at XJ or CP outside of the flow.
Yes, technically you could get hired outside of the flow. However, it is unlikely due to the fact that, say a class of 30 pilots comes through, they are already filled with at least 9 mesaba and 20 pilots from compass. If the class size is larger than that, the better your chances. I asked this question to some of the people I know at NWA/Delta who deal with pilot hiring, they said to get hired outside of the flow would require passing the interview, being approved by upper management for the added training expense, and have union approval to accept more pilots from the wholly owned vs say the military. In other words, to get on outside the flow you're going to have to know a lot of people or be a minority....

Edit: Or you can quit mesaba, go work somewhere else then apply. This is the best option in my opinion.....