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STILL GROUNDED
What he is... saying are you willing to work under a post 9/11 contract that was negotiated under the guidance of a corrupt attorney with the largest aircraft on property being a 50 seat regional jet at a company which was mostly transitional and had an average upgrade time for fo's of about 16 months?
Are you willing to work for a company that is the only one in this economic downturn that is doing anything to improve its position? Are you willing to work for a company that is willing to think outside the box and make business decisions that are for the greater good of many while an unfortunate devastation to few?
The mins are most likely going to be dictated by politicians who know nothing about flying airplanes. The mins will also be dictated by the number of "qualified 121 applicants". The portion of people you see posting here is so small. Most in the industry don't read this banter and even more barely know it exists. People will apply banking on the stability of the company and the potential of a good contract in the future.
I will add some info that may or may not be relevant, but here goes.
Republic, and the guys and gals who work there, seem to take a lot of heat on this board for their current contract. I know nothing of the contract specifics, but I have compared hourly rates from this web site. It seems to me that their pay rates, with the exception of jetBlue, are about what ALPA has negotiatied elsewhere. Republic F.O. starts at 23, peaks in 4 yrs at 37. Republic Captain 170 is 59 1st yr and peaks at 108 yr 20. E-190 rates are 64 to 119/hr. Compass Capt rates start at 61 and peak at 101 yr 18. USAir rates are 41 to 52/hr for Fo(significantly better than Compass or Republic) but their Captain rates are 79 with a peak at yr 12 of 95/hr.
Also, many of the large jet charter/freight operators don't pay much, if any, better than Republic with the exception of 1st yr FO rates.
Take these numbers for what they're worth, but maybe some posters should lighten up a bit as to the rates. They are not really all that different than the rates at comparable airlines/equipt.