Recalls at RAH
#111
So should we have let YX go out of business? Their management and sorry union did that to them. Maybe if we just watched them go out of business without our help they wouldn't be crying soo much. If you don't like the circumstances then do us all favors and don't come over! We helped YX remember, they brought nothing to the table!
#112
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
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So should we have let YX go out of business? Their management and sorry union did that to them. Maybe if we just watched them go out of business without our help they wouldn't be crying soo much. If you don't like the circumstances then do us all favors and don't come over! We helped YX remember, they brought nothing to the table!
Funny girl. Republic helped themself to all the jobs and took the reservation system, market department, internet site, gates, slots, maintenance hangers, loyal customer base, ...
I would have loved for Republic to start their own airline like Independence Air.
Midwest would still be in business with Midwest employees.
From Rev BB...
From an operating perspective Midwest is currently profitable, says Bedford. But Republic has advised the market that Midwest is likely to "go back into a loss-making situation for the fall and probably January and February, although we don't think it is significantly loss making". Once Midwest finalises its restructuring in early 2010 Bedford predicts: "We're going to be profitable, strongly profitable, in the second quarter of next year and we'll continue to be profitable thereafter."
If AirTran wanted Midwest at $400 with B717 and MD80s, do you thing they would have paid $32 for Midwest with only 25-B717?
Republic and Midwest merged for the benefit of Republic, TPG and NWA/Delta.
#113
After reviewing your body of work I guess I should not be surprised by this feeble attempt at ............humor???
I hope beyond all hope that you do not work for Republic because none of the professional pilots who worked for MEH would ever deserve to have to share an office with the likes of you!
These guys and gals are all very busy trying to figure out what they will do next, how they will continue to pay their bills, fund their retirement, pay for the kids college, afford cobra to ensure continued medical coverage, apply for jobs, file for unemployment, go back to school etc. etc.
Then you have the guys who are continuing to wage this fight for their careers who have to do all of the above and complete all of the time consuming work that this requires.
And you come up with the above statement.
Your level of immaturity and insensitivity is colossal.
I hope beyond all hope that you do not work for Republic because none of the professional pilots who worked for MEH would ever deserve to have to share an office with the likes of you!
These guys and gals are all very busy trying to figure out what they will do next, how they will continue to pay their bills, fund their retirement, pay for the kids college, afford cobra to ensure continued medical coverage, apply for jobs, file for unemployment, go back to school etc. etc.
Then you have the guys who are continuing to wage this fight for their careers who have to do all of the above and complete all of the time consuming work that this requires.
And you come up with the above statement.
Your level of immaturity and insensitivity is colossal.
#114
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 798
After reviewing your body of work I guess I should not be surprised by this feeble attempt at ............humor???
I hope beyond all hope that you do not work for Republic because none of the professional pilots who worked for MEH would ever deserve to have to share an office with the likes of you!
These guys and gals are all very busy trying to figure out what they will do next, how they will continue to pay their bills, fund their retirement, pay for the kids college, afford cobra to ensure continued medical coverage, apply for jobs, file for unemployment, go back to school etc. etc.
Then you have the guys who are continuing to wage this fight for their careers who have to do all of the above and complete all of the time consuming work that this requires.
And you come up with the above statement.
Your level of immaturity and insensitivity is colossal.
I hope beyond all hope that you do not work for Republic because none of the professional pilots who worked for MEH would ever deserve to have to share an office with the likes of you!
These guys and gals are all very busy trying to figure out what they will do next, how they will continue to pay their bills, fund their retirement, pay for the kids college, afford cobra to ensure continued medical coverage, apply for jobs, file for unemployment, go back to school etc. etc.
Then you have the guys who are continuing to wage this fight for their careers who have to do all of the above and complete all of the time consuming work that this requires.
And you come up with the above statement.
Your level of immaturity and insensitivity is colossal.
........ +1
#115
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Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
So should we have let YX go out of business? Their management and sorry union did that to them. Maybe if we just watched them go out of business without our help they wouldn't be crying soo much. If you don't like the circumstances then do us all favors and don't come over! We helped YX remember, they brought nothing to the table!
And speaking of sorry unions, you shouldn't throw stones in your glass house.
And just exactly what have YOU or the RAH pilot group done for YX pilots? Since you've brought everything to the table, and they've brought nothing. RAH didn't gain the name, the reservation system, the route structure, the customer base, or the great airline built on the backs of the YX pilots who are now on the street.
Yeah, I guess Midwest brought nothing.
#116
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: rear GV
Posts: 294
So should we have let YX go out of business? Their management and sorry union did that to them. Maybe if we just watched them go out of business without our help they wouldn't be crying soo much. If you don't like the circumstances then do us all favors and don't come over! We helped YX remember, they brought nothing to the table!
#117
<----------That is my stance on the matter. I am furloughed and I will bypass because this needs to happen before I will return the RAH.
#118
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: B756 FO
Posts: 1,288
Why would a integration take 9-10 months? Because Republic pilots want all the jobs at Midwest.
Delta/NWA integration took less time.
SWA wanted to make a integration deal with Frontier in two days... too fast I agree.
It's pretty simply, you have to discuss lets say 6 ways to integrate a seniority list. If you can't agree then it goes to arbitration, period. No more than 4 months is needed... 1 month of talks followed by 3 months for arbitration.
Delta/NWA integration took less time.
SWA wanted to make a integration deal with Frontier in two days... too fast I agree.
It's pretty simply, you have to discuss lets say 6 ways to integrate a seniority list. If you can't agree then it goes to arbitration, period. No more than 4 months is needed... 1 month of talks followed by 3 months for arbitration.
In a ideal world, I agree with you that it SHOULD take no more than 4 months to hammer out a seniority integration. But I am thinking this situation was set up for a long miserable road from the get go. Hell, Cactus v Airways is at 2 years plus of seniority wars and its at an absolute stand still. I really hope for your sake, that your integration does not go down this path, but would you be surprised if it did?
After looking at the agreed to time line, it is disappointing to see ALPA/FAPA not push for a more time sensitive process. I personally think the time line is far too drawn out with you guys on the street. I truly hope that by the time the integration is finalized, those that have the chance and are willing to move on to better, stronger carriers will be long gone and happy all while this crap situation is FAR behind you!
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