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Old 01-07-2010 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by HermannGraf
Atlanta is one of those places where an accident is just waiting to happend. It is a training place for controllers and with the amount of flying in and out is just simple a bad match. We need guys like they have in O' Hare @ Atlanta.

All facilities are "training" facilities now. The old days of working your way up to the bigger facilities have been changed by the same people you saw on ABC last week partying $5 million of your tax money in ATL.

Having said that, how would you suggest a controller gets O'Hare type experience. They all had to start somewhere, and even the O'Hare guys/gals had a first day there, too.

Also, I'm not sure I want all the non-standard phraseology and procedures that ORD controllers use as the norm. Yes, they get the job done, but g*d help the neophyte ORD pilot, or foreign (non-english speaking) pilot who is not familiar with ORD.

It's far from ideal.


It is way easy to become a controller in the States and the product shows it.

That's true. Many, myself included, were hired with no experience whatsoever; some not even familiar with aircraft or airports. But, the same is true of pilots, even military.


Looking back at a few accidents lately caused by controller attitude we might see that we do have a problem there.

I'm not aware of attitude causing an accident. Care to elaborate?


I wish we pilots could write them up the same way they can do with us. Maybe ask them for a phone number to call them when they screw you up really badly.

You can call and complain any time you want. Call during business hours and ask for the Quality Assurance office, Operations manager, or Air Traffic Manager. Write down the frequency and zulu date/time. You don't need any info from the controller, except perhaps the phone number (which you can get from other sources).
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