As far as being happy---Have you ever been at 30,000 feet in an F-15 about to split S on a train of F-16's at Cope Thunder?[/QUOTE]

No, but I have been the untargeted Viper at 100ft and 700kcas about to immelman to 30k into the wall of Eagles just north of THE Farms.

Not trying to start a Viper/Eagle thing.