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No, but I have been the untargeted Viper at 100ft and 700kcas about to immelman to 30k into the wall of Eagles just north of THE Farms.Originally Posted by 1Seat 1Engine
As far as being happy---Have you ever been at 30,000 feet in an F-15 about to split S on a train of F-16's at Cope Thunder?
Not trying to start a Viper/Eagle thing.[/QUOTE]
Untargeted Viper, ain't no such thing! Seriously though, did it get any better than flying at CT in the PI without big brotha watching you on ACMI? Those were the days brother!
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I ended up in Hogs...one day we were playing around with the Coon Ass Eagle guys, and a young'un jumped me. Nothing stays inside a Hog break and when it's at low altitude, we can hold our energy better than most think.
Certainly better than he thought. First he tried to kill his overtake, then realizing he was going to overshoot anyway, he went vertical.
I know he had drank the Kool Aid that says a Hog can't go up...and so as I went across the top with a face full of Eagle in full burner going nowhere fast, I let go with a "Boy's, it don't get any better than this!".
It got a laugh or two in the debrief!!
Before I retired, I had a buddy of mine come down from KC with 3 hogs. We had a hell of a good time. Post merge kills, guns only. The bloody great wheel of hugs with 30mm is a hard nut to crack for anyone, even an Eagle Driver.Originally Posted by shackone
Hehehe!! Don't we all have stories like this!! Makes the movie TopGun look pretty tame.I ended up in Hogs...one day we were playing around with the Coon Ass Eagle guys, and a young'un jumped me. Nothing stays inside a Hog break and when it's at low altitude, we can hold our energy better than most think.
Certainly better than he thought. First he tried to kill his overtake, then realizing he was going to overshoot anyway, he went vertical.
I know he had drank the Kool Aid that says a Hog can't go up...and so as I went across the top with a face full of Eagle in full burner going nowhere fast, I let go with a "Boy's, it don't get any better than this!".
It got a laugh or two in the debrief!!
When I flew them, all we had for an A2A sight was the gun cross. Now that's all changed. Having a reliable gun capability out to 2 nm is pretty neat.
After a few years at an airline it's hard to tell the military and civilian guys apart. We are all just airline pilots at this point and have to deal with all the same issues. Some guys can do it with a good attitude others can't, really don't see any correlation between background and attitude out on the line. The military guys do have some great stories for those long flights and at the bar!
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Untargeted Viper, ain't no such thing! Seriously though, did it get any better than flying at CT in the PI without big brotha watching you on ACMI? Those were the days brother![/QUOTE]
OHHHH THAAAT Cope Thunder. I thought you were talking about the sad excuse for an LFE they call Cope T now.
Never made it to the PI, but I did spend a few good days in Low Fly 7.
Untargeted Viper, ain't no such thing! Seriously though, did it get any better than flying at CT in the PI without big brotha watching you on ACMI? Those were the days brother![/QUOTE]
OHHHH THAAAT Cope Thunder. I thought you were talking about the sad excuse for an LFE they call Cope T now.
Never made it to the PI, but I did spend a few good days in Low Fly 7.
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If ex-military guys were flying for a commuter somewhere, my bet is they would be a little bit angry also.
We do fly for Mesa as well as every commuter out there.... I flew helicopters for 15yrs then spent a couple in C-12/BE-20s for the Navy. There wasn't a job in the majors for me or the other two military guys in my class. I'm more than happy with my commuter job and certainly understand the value of my military training and experience... We all start as FOs somewhere... If you think all military guys go right to a major.. You're dead wrong.Originally Posted by akpilot7
Most military pilots are happier because they came from the military with the qualifications needed for the majors. They aren't flying as an f.o. for Mesa If ex-military guys were flying for a commuter somewhere, my bet is they would be a little bit angry also.
Untargeted Viper, ain't no such thing! Seriously though, did it get any better than flying at CT in the PI without big brotha watching you on ACMI? Those were the days brother![/QUOTE]
OHHHH THAAAT Cope Thunder. I thought you were talking about the sad excuse for an LFE they call Cope T now.
Never made it to the PI, but I did spend a few good days in Low Fly 7.[/QUOTE]
Low Fly 7, been there, done that -- 250 low fly battle of britan rocks! I was flying out of Ramstien, how about you?
OHHHH THAAAT Cope Thunder. I thought you were talking about the sad excuse for an LFE they call Cope T now.
Never made it to the PI, but I did spend a few good days in Low Fly 7.[/QUOTE]
Low Fly 7, been there, done that -- 250 low fly battle of britan rocks! I was flying out of Ramstien, how about you?
