Originally Posted by
dontsurf
so what winglets is saying is that the asa pilots should be on delta's seniority list and delta never should have sold them. i think i'm getting that right. because they were owned by one entity, and should therefore have been one pilot group. weird how business doesn't actually work that way.
Yes, they should have. Just as Eagle pilots should be on American's list and why Expressjet should have been on Continental's list before they were sold.
It's weird how NWA and Delta are on one list right now, yet Skywest pilots fly the same size airplanes and are on two different lists, ASA and Skywest.
weird...
Originally Posted by
nigelcobalt
So Winglets,
What you are saying is no different than a comair, mesaba, and compass pilot that is furloughed, should then be able to be recalled when any delta wholly owned starts recalling, correct? And why stop there? Shouldn't a comair 9 year fo be able to jump over to compass and be the most senior captain? Or even better, a 20 year mesaba guy can just bid over to the left seat 767 doing international delta stuff.
I chose SkyWest. I waited until I had the mins at the time (1000). I could have gone to asa a year earlier (much lower mins). Not from atl, so it was of no interest to me. Your option would screw over guys that did that.
Btw, I voted alpa. I still want alpa. I want one list, but integretion will be a little tricky, and there will have to be some give and take.
It is upon the backs of SkyWest pilots that the company prospered enough to be able to buy ASA outright. Now, even though we are separate lists, AND companies, we are working together to make Inc strong. Hopefully to our benefit.
A little something to think about.
At the very least Comair, Mesaba, and Compass should be on one list and on top of that, they should all be on Delta's list.
Last time I check they fly in Delta paint.
As for you longer wait to get on with Skywest over Skywest ASA, then yes, in integration you should get a 6-12 month shift in DOH over a Skywest ASA pilot. But this is the problem you will have until you get rid of the whipsaw.
Originally Posted by
rickair7777
I don't think you'd feel the same way if the tables were turned.
It would be nice if SKW and ASA could integrate lists, but that hasn't happened yet.
Actually, the tables will turn for the SKW pilots, eventually. But what incentive will the Skywest ASA pilots have to help you guys then, because you did nothing to help them. Fair is Fair
Originally Posted by
PSACFI
I haven't really seen a reason to yet. Yeah ASA furloughing and Skywest not sucks but on the positive side there hasn't been any TSA/GoJet or Freedom/Mesa (when they were separate) whipsaw action.....yet.
Things could be much, much worse.
You are being whipsawed right now. Skywest management is just smart enough not to take it to the extremes. Your pay would be much better right now if Skywest had one list for its pilots.