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Old 02-10-2010, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163 View Post
Dont even begin comparing PSA and Colgan. Totally different in general. PSA is and does have oversight from Mainline. PSA also has training very similiar to mainline and thus checklist etc are very similar. Even as of recently Mainline is trying to find a way to make their checklist shorter and wanted to do the same as PSA to keep things similar..... Further more there has never been an issue of safety at PSA as there has been at Colgan. The training department does a great number of jumpseats and line checks. They did this before 3407 and continue to do so.... So before you start spouting off on something you know NOTHING about, get some facts straight...... Like how mainline and PSA/PDT use the same ways in which to identify possible safety issues... Also keep in mind we have pleanty of 20 year Captains at PSA.... You have know clue how long the Captain that day has been here, now do you !

Further more the Captain for sure has a clean record... You would find nothing even close to that of Colgan 3407 with this crew. He (the Captain) also at some point was in a higher role then just a regular Captain.... Very respected man around here.... Unfortunate that this had to happen to him..... The FO as well, has been here for a longer period of time. It was not someone who was just barely wet behind the ears.....

And lastly, you give three items above... Of which you have ZERO factual information to back it up. So until you have proof stop spouting off like an ignorant fool......
Originally Posted by IBPilot View Post
Meyers you missed his point. He wasn't comparing PSA to Colgan. He said that if it weren't for the EMAS there would have been another public outcry as to the experience of regional pilots and PSA would be the target since it was their crew/plane.

Exactly. Meyers went on a big long rant and talked a lot but said nothing of value.

Who cares if the captain is highly respected there. Who cares if the FO had thousands of hours in the crj. Who cares about any of that. Sterile cockpit was broken. And if it was broken that day I would be willing to bet dollars to krispykremes (although they are about the same price now) that he has been breaking sterile cockpit since day 1. Only difference is he had an incident that day and was caught breaking regulations. I see a lot of similarities between this incident and the colgan accident.

1. Idle chatter not related to the flight at hand.
2. Inattention to airplane configuration.
3. Poor decision making.
4. Loss of situational awareness.
5. Lack of CRM
6. Not following FOM or CFM guidelines.

PSA got lucky. Colgan was not.
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