Originally Posted by
aa73
You guys are speculating way too much without access to many of the facts.
Fuel was not an issue.
Controller told them that, to get 31R, they would have to declare an emergency. Fine, we're declaring an emergency. Controller using typical NY style intimidation to not inconvenience himself.
767 xwind limits are LIMITATIONS that cannot be exceeded. If the controller refuses my request for a different runway due to winds being out of limits, I would a) divert to another airport or b) do exactly as this crew did.
Regarding a previous poster's comments overflying numerous airports and having forecasts (FliFast) - get real. Are you telling me you would fly LAX-JFK and divert halfway because JFK has ONE RUNWAY that is out of wind limits? (Nah, that can't be - more like your typical anti-AA comments that have no bearing on the real story.)
Ahh yes I would divert if the winds were out of my comfort zone at destination airport, rather than shooting an approach, breaking it off and descending to only 600 feet while pointing away from the airport and flying through Indian Country and not following an ATC Controllers attempt to keep myself and my airplane out of harms's way.
By the way, looks like you're not familiar with airports in the NY area.
PIT = Pittsburg.
BWI=Baltimore.
MDT=Harrisburg, PA
ABE=Allentown, PA
BDL=Windor Locks, CT
None of these are halfway between LAX and NY...with the exception of PIT which is near the filed route according to Flightaware.com.
Nope not anti-AA comments...just 15,000 hours worth of experience. I know you guys are too proud to admit that CRM with Air Traffic Controller was totally thrown in the trash. Pretty arrogant to tell a traffic controller that is trying to keep you away from the 22R downwind, VFR Banner tower alley, and CAMRN arrival corridor to go pound sound.
When you want to post something intelligent and not flame bait...I'll be waiting. Until then, give it a rest.
FF