I don't generally agree with Zapata (no offense to you zapata) but I have to here. The airlines are civilian, period. Not even close to "quasi military". If you really believe this, you don't understand CRM and your understanding of military leadership is suspect.

Let me ask you this. Is a non degreed Captain with a civilian background paired with a retired Colonel with an advanced degree as his F/O somehow an injustice to you sf3?

It seems like you're one of these arrogant military types that feels military officers are somehow entitled to an airline job....especially over civilian folks. Not to mention, your nostagia is behind your fantasy of a military-like civilian airline. Get over it. It isnät like that and it never will or should be.

BTW; I am a retired NCO with an advanced degree and after 20 years, I have the upmost respect for the military folks.