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Some guy
Fellas, need help quick...
I have vacation from Jul into Aug. Would like to remove five carryover R-days in August by sliding my vacation to the right. Submitted the request to slide 5 days, but when I checked the bid summary page there was a warning stating that I had exceeded my expansion limit, and my request would be rejected (note: I did expand my period three days to the left in Jul). So with that in mind, I resubmitted my request to slide it only two days, and I no longer get the warning. Is this because we are only allowed to expand or slide a vacation period a total of five days either way? I'd really like to get those five days removed but don't know how. I can't expand/extend in Aug because I was awarded a VTO (not by choice). I've read the contract, but as usual it's not very clear.
Thanks in advance,
SG
Agree with others that there appears to be a little mixing of terms.
* assuming you are a reg line holder *
Sounds like you actually knocked out the R days by touching actual R days (via slide) there is really no limit on the number of "days" you can expand it is strictly a CH calculation. (disclaimer, see the CBA as the actual vacation can only be expanded in the month it occurs unless it has been awarded or slid to touch more than on bid month then you can expand into either month). You need to treat the vacation as 1 period either way and the CH limit applies in total, so you need to do the math (Vac days * 6 +6) to find your expansion limit then subtract the hours already removed for vacation in the previous month and that would be your total expansion availability.
Slide has no limit on credit hours touched and the only buffer you have is international duty free ones. Expansion is strictly math and must be consecutive trips, no leapfrogging. In theory you can expand for 3 weeks or more in one direction if you stay below your limit.
If you can get the terms straight then vacation will be easy. I suggest you use it all and take max time off, remember we are still over staffed from what I hear.
b. A vacation expansion shall not cause a vacation conflict that
exceeds the credit hour value of the original vacation period
by more than 6 CH. All days in the expanded vacation
period shall be consecutive.
c. A pilot may not expand his vacation period to conflict with
a trip(s) that begins outside the bid period of his vacation
as awarded or slid. However, a pilot awarded vacation that
extends into the next bid period may expand within either
bid period.
Example: A pilot awarded a 7 day vacation period in week
1 of August may slide his vacation back so that it overlaps
both the August and July bid periods. He may then expand
his vacation period to hit trips in either July or August in
accordance with normal expansion rules.