Originally Posted by
Slaphappy
only thing i've heard is skywest might be getting some mesa 900's and 700's.
I hope not unless it means an acquisition of Mesa and not just the aircraft.
Originally Posted by
nigelcobalt
I would love for this to happen, but I just don't see why management would want almost (what 8,000 plus pilots?) unified and ready to take what we can from mgt's greedy hands.
As far as alpa on property, the last vote management fought awful hard against it. Not sure why they would have changed their mind now.
They probably know that with a pilot group that large, the NMB would never release them to self help anyways.
Originally Posted by
nigelcobalt
I do. So do a LOT of other pilots. I tend to agree with the idea that Skw pretty much knows that a union is coming (nmb rule change). It seems they have been acting as if it's coming, hence the fastest erosion of qol/benefits the company has seen in so short a timeframe.
Classic setup to lower the status quo before the next vote. I wouldn't be surprized if SKW just recognized the student council as the bargaining representative in order to preempt another vote. Wont matter in a seniority list merger anyways though.
Originally Posted by
Slaphappy
doubt it, the last vote only got 35% yes votes. Nobody here wants alpa, and skywest isn't going to waste their time with xjt again. The only way I see it happeneing is XJT going chpt 11. getting their pilot contract thrown out. I bet this will be the case, xjt is on the verge anyway. I bet they convince the right people that chpt 11 is the best way to fix xjt.
So the last time 35% said they wanted ALPA but nobody wants ALPA? Yeah, that makes total sense. Anyways, now it would only take a plurality of the votes. Add another 4300 ALPA pilots to those 35% and you have a landslide.
Slaphappy, I see you are back since the flaming you took on the "UA/CO effect on reginals" thread. But I also noticed you still havent replied to any of the responses you got from those posts. I'm particularly interested in the reply to this. Please do so, I look forward to your insight.
Originally Posted by Slaphappy
That and CAL has made it their mission to screw expressjet at every turn and now that CAL management is taking over UAL I don’t see that changing.
Originally Posted by Nevets
Thanks in part to SKW.
Originally Posted by Slaphappy
I hate to sound like a broken record but the XJT mec made a big mistake not making a deal with skywest and allowing the buyout 2 years ago. You guys would be in much better shape and have a much better future.
Originally Posted by Nevets
The SKW deal: Close down branded and DAL prorate agreement - was bound to happen anyways; Close down charter; Transfer the 10 a/c CPA to SKW airlines; Transfer 25 a/c to Skywest airlines for a CPA with CAL; Fourlough 700 pilots (we furloughed less than half of that); Take a 16% paycut to include PBS, getting rid of our defined contribution retirement plan, and other work rule changes equal to 4% paycut in the future after they had a chance to study our contract ("to bring us down to parity with SKW pilots"); Maintain seperate operations with seperate seniority lists without the ability to bid over with a/c in case they were transferee over to ASA or SKW (same clause SKW and ASA pilots have in the ASA contract); negotiate rates for Q400s. What they offered: 15 yr CPA for 205 a/c that was going to be up to bid in 12 months; inclusion in the SKW profit sharing and performance bonus plans; preferential (not guaranteed) interviews for furloughed pilots (to fly the same a/c and routes they are currently flying but at the bottom of a non-union seniority list at first yr SKW pay).