Originally Posted by
BDGERJMN
Huggy...your points have some validity but here's the thing. Are we really going to crucify(hopefully not) the squadron and the leadership for allowing a call sign review board to run it's course. It has and should remain a tradition in Naval Aviation. Could it be tempered? Sure..and it most certainly will moving forward. The mere fact that some of those in leadership positions making a decision about what to do in this case were the very same Nuggets and JO's who sat idle in many a' call sign review boards when 'inappropriate' call signs were thrown around in their day. To do nothing would probably not be right, but to end careers over this is a knee jerk reaction and does nothing more than kill morale and make this business less fun.
One more point to offer, and this isn't a USAF/USN thing, but we have different cultures in our services, we see it every day. One isn't any more right than the other. They are just different. Suffice it to say, while this young(old) Ensign wasn't part of the VFA community growing up, he certainly became part of the community when he took orders to the squadron. It is not uncommon to reference our ground officers by a nick name or call sign if it is warranted, it normally brings them into the ready room mix. I dont know this individual nor am I in the squadron, but I would venture to say that we don't know all that went into this thing. If you believe all you read, so be it.
As to your last point...one needs to look no farther than the Wolfpack in Kunsan or the Kadena O'club on a Friday night to see a multitude of "transgressions" amongst Officers and Enlisted. Animal House comes to mind whenever I Hurrevac'd a jet to Kunsan or was there for DACT..it is what it is.
Excellent points..
The one thing I've yet to see mentioned in any of the press reporting (or whining from ENS Careerisover) is the fact that when he let it be known he was butt hurt (no pun intended) over the "name calling" a vast majority apologized to him. I know this from first hand sources. But as with all things VFA, we move on and continue to operate. From what I understand this wasn't good enough for him and he filed the complaint. I'll keep other details told to me off of here, but suffice to say there is WAY more to this story than what is being reported.