Originally Posted by
robthree
USMCFLYER,
Am I welcome to post in this area when some point of discussion interests me?
I'll assume that was because I asked what exactly you were doing here. Gimme a break robthree. You didn't come on this thread to get involved in the discussion or air your opinion. Let's review how your first post started, shall we:
"A bunch of meat heads sitting around making up derogatory names for each other or a drunken, x-rated party at the O'club doesn't sound like a 'professional' or 'warrior' culture to me. What it sounds like is a Frat house."
Don't revise history here dude. Your intent posting in this thread wasn't to say "gee guys, that seemed a little unprofessional." Your goal was to throw a jab. Pure and simple.
Originally Posted by
robthree
After reading everyone's responses to that point, I was surprised that the consensus was its such a shame that we can't get away with anything we want anymore and that the rules of society don't apply to us because we're warriors and 'they' just don't understand what we go through.
"Rules of society don't apply to us"...I don't even know what to say to that man. You are so out to lunch on this subject I don't know what to say. I don't think you understand what a naming ceremony really is. It's not an official military ceremony. It's usually in a bar or a ready room. And it's meant to be fun. I think if you sat in one, then you'd get it. So because they gave a guy an (completely unofficial, by the way) nickname that a) he didn't like and b) included the B word, then suddenly the "rules of society don't apply?" I think you've made a giant leap to get from point A to point B there.
As for "the consensus was it's such a shame that we can't get away with anything we want"...GMAFB. No it wasn't. No one ever said anyone should be able to get away with anything they want. What dudes are saying is: "why is the entire world suddenly in our business because these guys gave a dude an
unofficial nickname in accordance with our tradition and heritage?" The dudes are saying that this whole thing got blown completely out of proportion because this oversensitive ensign doesn't get what really happened at his naming. IG investigations, people fired, careers ended. Serious consequences. All over an unofficial nickname. All pretty absurd, really.
They gave him a callsign dude. That's it. From that you launched straight into the "unprofessional meathead" rant and decided to take jabs instead of try and understand any context. Don't expect to be welcomed by the crowd into a conversation in the military aviation forum with an act like that.