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Old 09-21-2010 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Its only a matter of time until underboob shows up on this thread.

Me: I am not sure it requires pages and pages to delineate what is good and bad about ALPA. I dont like ALPA because I am certain we dont get our moneys worth and the conflict of interest issue. There are phenomenally great things about ALPA too: aeromedical, IFALPA, size/lobbying, etc. The etc. may be repeatable by and inhouse and also may not be repeatable. ALPA in its current configuration is somehow morally broken from the top down. Maybe that is my biggest issue with them and one that I am reminded of every month when I get the RJ pilot self-back-patting magazine.

I am tired of DALPA spin and expectations management, but I do believe the reps try to maintain a lookout for Delta pilots adrift in the greater sea of airline "business". Do I think a new union will fix those issues: Not really, but I am willing to listen.
Well said.

I am not against the idea of National ALPA and believe that there is a lot of good that can come from the establishment. I also would not like to go through the pain of starting up a new in-house union (I am sure that management would love for us to go through that hassle and infighting right before and during our next contract negotiations). I believe that the problem we face with our National Association is the same problem that many Americans are facing regarding our elected political representatives. The "elites" at the top of the political/union structure have grown out of touch with the people they are elected to represent. We get sold a bill of goods that never get delivered (and often aren't even attempted to be delivered). All this happens while we the people sit back and complain while no taking the time to really learn all the facts on an issue (mostly because it is very hard to get educated with true facts to the issues both politically and within our union). We offer suggestions to our friends, neighbors, anyone who will listen but only when it is convenient in our daily lives. We as a collective group need to stand up, take action within our organization and get educated about what is happening. We all need to do that and we know that, easy for me/us to say. The hard part is in actually getting past making the comment. Action is difficult, we are all busy and it seems like a daunting task with so many roadblocks. It is like the cliche of how to eat the elephant, one bite at a time. We need to take that bite and I hope that this DPA group will at least get more of us to take that first bite, some might actually like it.

The low number of people that actually make it to LEC meeting is disturbing, the low voter turnout is terrible and this is why the elected have been able to broaden the gap between those at the top and those that they are elected to represent. There is no accountability at the top and it needs to change.

Originally Posted by scambo1
A wake up call is needed, but if it is just a "power grab" I'll stick with status quo.
Agreed!
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