Originally Posted by
Scoop
ACL,
What is the harm in a vote? Or even better a discussion on ALPA followed by a vote? ALPA needs to know - we will not tolerate any more SCOPE concessions.
I see a bunch of senior DAL Captains on this thread saying the SCOPE fight is over - RJ's are dying. To this I answer - Maybe if you are a widebody Captain the SCOPE fight is over - but if you are a narrowbody FO - stand by and get involved. 50 seaters are being retired but who flies what in between 76 and 124 seats is a very big concern of mine.
ALPA does seem to have lost touch with some of the line pilots - maybe a representative vote will shake them up. I am not saying I am definitely for throwing out ALPA, but I have no problem with discussing throwing ALPA off the property, and if that is the end result - so be it. If we decide to keep ALPA - maybe they will learn something from this whole episode and improve as an organization.
Scoop
Scoop,
I feel like the 800 pound gorilla in the room is being ignored. In a way that gorilla is us and our past inaction and in another way the gorilla is the CAL/UAL merger negotiations. (400 lbs each
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Are we as Delta pilots concerned with scope? Hell yeah and we have been for a very long time, no matter what uniform we wore before the merger.
So, the real question is, why is it that the CAL/UAL pilots are making scope a central issue for their merger discussion under the ALPA umbrella and we did not?
Personally, I don't care who represents us. I just want to win. But, no one is explaining to me how DPA would have behaved differently if LM was in charge of it instead of DALPA.
Let me explain. By the way that everyone defends LM around here, I have to assume that he would have been elected leader of DPA, as well as most of the other reps. Right? So, I guess I'll ask in a different way, because no one has answered any of my questions yet. How is a DPA run by LM different than the U/CALPA run by WM and whoever is leading the CAL pilots?
If they are successful in getting rid of the rj's, and I hope they are, to me it will prove that ALPA is not the problem.
Instead of blaming ALPA maybe we need to take a look in the mirror.
New K