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Old 10-12-2010 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Carl;
We are getting in to schematics here.
I don't know what schematics has to do with this?

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Simply stating that guys should not take a job is imo just plain naive.
It's not naive. Not if they are educated at all. Why make no money to build time, to get to a job that won't be there. Education.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
New pilots are going to do whatever they can to get to where they want ASAP.
I have no sympathy whatsoever to a pilot with that view. A pilot who says he/she will do whatever they can to get to where they want ASAP is nothing more than a scab IMO. You can't say you'll do anything to get where you want. There is such a thing as ethics...as naive as that may sound.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The fix to the problem needs to be guys like you and I not voting for more scope concession,
Yes.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
and regional guys demanding better pay at every section six.
Yes...and striking if they don't get it.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
To answer you one question. Comair tried it in 2001 with a 89 day strike that raised their top rate to almost 118 an hr. They have since then been shrunk in to an oblivion.
So what! That only proves the thesis that regionals are only there because management has found a cheaper place to obtain pilot services. If you don't want to risk shrinking in order to get acceptable pay, then you're saying you'll continue to be the low pay conduit that management is looking for. Again, for that, I have no sympathy.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
In the end, we both agree that the regionals are a problem. I like the fact that you care deeply about scope. So lets work on the fix, and quit assigning blame. I am guilty of this as are you.
That's OK with me. I was only assigning blame because the only thing I ever heard from you (until now) is that this whole mess was ALL the fault of major pilots. That was simply not the case. We are guilty, but we were and are only half the problem.

Carl
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