Originally Posted by
Grumble
I'm sorry, what military experience are you speaking from? If there is one thing we preach above all else, is that unless it's combat, safetly rules above all else. We absolutley don't encourage guys to fly tired or push themselves beyond what they deem safe, and we have firm rest rules as well. Guys risk manage themselves out of flights everything from a baby keeping them up all night, to a minor cold, you name it. There is no X so important to get that we accept unmitigated risk.
Amphetimenes for "pick me ups?" You talking about go-pills? They are rarely used, but an option for air crew in a high optempo combat enviroment, and even then it's strictly controlled by the flight docs and tracked by everyone up to the top chain. We don't just pop them willy nilly like candy. It's also voluntary, only after you've gone through a trial period with some down time from flying. I've taken two in my life, during the trial on the transpac. Never took another one.
Our number one mission is personal safety, and a vast majority of the time we measure success by one yard stick and that's bringing everyone home safely. Outside of combat, mission accomplishment is getting the job done, without hurting anyone. Less than that, and you've failed.
20+ (fast headed to 30) years experience, wide variety of mission specialties. I said mission accomplishment comes first, perhaps I should have clarified that safety is the priority in training.
But the point was that airline pilots should not really look to the military model as an example as far as safety vs. mission accomplishment. They are different animals, and the military can and will push the envelope when an operational (vice training) mission requires it.
It doesn't do us airline people any good to adopt a program which emphasizes safety in training but allows exceptions in real world ops. Airline training is done almost entirely in simulators, and 99+% of our ops are real world missions. Management would love unlimited discretion to push the boundaries whenever Wx, Mx, poor planning, etc caused system problems
Go-pills are an amphetamine.