Come on, ACL. You have a good idea of how pilot costs fit into the big picture here. I highly doubt that the difference between our current pay rates and something like, say, a 50% increase would have been the difference between growth in 07/08. In fact, do you remember what happened to fuel prices during that time period? That was way more significant to the company than a pilot pay increase would have been.

And there you go again wanting to tie our pay to profitability. I would say that's okay if we had not taken a 42% pay cut and we were just trying to negotiate a traditional increase. But we are digging out of a huge hole... and we're never going to make it with this mentality. Right is right and wrong is wrong. And it's wrong for the company to take advantage of us like they are. Like I said before, it's time for them to pay the piper. If they thought pilot costs were permanently reset to half value and they weren't planning on any kind of restoration, well that's just too bad. They were stupid. And our MEC was stupid for helping them think this. The more I read here, DPA just keeps looking better and better.