Originally Posted by Lambourne

I think all the jobs should be mainline jobs. If it say United and has the UA logo those should be UA employees. No reason the 340 couldn't be an ab initio fleet. Having two hiring funnels. Those with less experience get routed to the TP fleet. Applicants that have better experience get the jet path. All have the same seniority so they move up as they get time. Once a threshold of say 1,500 hours (assuming the FAA caves on raising the experience) they would be able to bid any position their seniority could hold.

How is NOT having those jobs at mainline bad for an express pilot? Did you really want to have to be hired TWICE to get a mainline job? Once a regional and then again at the major. It makes the path much better for the express pilots as it doesn't limit their earnings to a 30-64 seat airplane. It opens up the entire gamut of aircraft and pay rates to you. I am not sure why you don't like that idea? Of course you are not having your job outsourced. Once you get replaced by the next lowest bidder I suspect your tune might change. But if you are at Colgan I am guessing that may not happen for obvious reasons.

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Originally Posted by Lambourne

I don't know where you get the "too good to fly the RJ's". At UA the majority of pilots wanted the RJ's on our property. We had a rouge MEC Chairman (Mike Glawe) that made the pitch to the MEC that the company could either buy RJ's or 400's but not both. The MEC voted to add the widebodies and allow RJ's. This was letting the camel in the tent. I think at the time of the agreement we had 57 400's. The fleet now stands at 26, that doesn't count all the 737's, 727's that are no longer flying our colors either. The MEC Chairman during our bankruptcy (Paul Whiteford) signed the 70 seat deal behind the backs of the entire MEC. At no point did I or the remaining UAL pilots get to vote on whether or not we got to fly the RJ's.



You guys like to make the argument that we think we are too good to fly those jets. Nothing could be farther from the truth and it seems that it is used as an excuse to stroke your own ego. Grow up and realize that if those jobs are all mainline it benefits everyone.

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