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Old 10-25-2010 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DMEarc
I wondered how long it would be until the pilots at Colgan began dogging their union for their own laziness. (pilots are lazy- union reps are not)

Axial Flow, Beagle... you guys really need to get a clue because you clearly have no idea how union representation works. Especially considering your current carrier does not have a CBA under which your reps can represent anyone! I have heard one of your reps compare it to - "representing a driver who received a speeding ticket, where the speed limit is not posted." Think before you post, because you look like clowns.

Good day.
Who's dogging the Union? Just pointing out the reality of the legal representation (from personal experience). Certainly a good Union member such as yourself understands that even ALPA has limitations, no?

I don't think the union shares your same view of pilots (a.k.a. their bread n' butter) as "lazy"
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Old 10-26-2010 | 07:52 AM
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The reason for my post was a simple one. To get some answers from our union reps. Our MEC is too busy getting LOA's for everything under the sun EXCEPT a grievance policy!

i.e. We had a Capt. in the hospital on an overnight, he called the company to inform them of the issue. He was suspended for not flying the trip in the morning!

Folks these ridiculous stories go on and on...... Our MEC is always trying to back-door a deal with management on these issues. I applaud them for their efforts, but we need a LEGAL way to handle this.
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Old 10-26-2010 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BeaglePilot
The reason for my post was a simple one. To get some answers from our union reps. Our MEC is too busy getting LOA's for everything under the sun EXCEPT a grievance policy!

i.e. We had a Capt. in the hospital on an overnight, he called the company to inform them of the issue. He was suspended for not flying the trip in the morning!

Folks these ridiculous stories go on and on...... Our MEC is always trying to back-door a deal with management on these issues. I applaud them for their efforts, but we need a LEGAL way to handle this.
A grievance policy was recently approved and should be announced soon.
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Old 10-27-2010 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Stratosphere
Well there is no doubt the commuter/regional guy works hard for a living thats for sure. I meant no disrespect just providing a different prospective.
Non taken. It just frosts me when some mainline folks blame us for all that is wrong with this industry.

Giving up scope has been going on for at least 40 years. I hate it and most of my coworkers hate it. We cannot do anything about it, but the (primarily low seniority folks) at the mainlines blame us.

I tried for 9 years to avoid taking the regional pay hit, but in the end I realized it was a losing battle. And IMHO, those who were able to bypass the regionals, poo-poo those of us who have come up from the ranks (CFI, boxes, to the regionals) as being the root of all evil.

I guess I speak for those of us who want to be mainline pilots who were not military and did not have a relative on the hiring committee: just folks who were willing to pay the dues to eventually make it to the big leagues. Yet we are often vilified for the downfall of the industry. THAT is what burns me.

Good luck.
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