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Old 10-27-2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Yup, and they'e got nothing of substance with which to make an argument.

There are some historical guides and some folks that have walked a DPA like path have posted about them (FedEx Pilots Association, National Pilots Association, Independent Association of Continental Pilots). They all rejoined ALPA. Are there any real success stories for the isolationists/tribalists out there? Nope. "Industry leading" SWAPA undercut ALPA for 32 years, and they still work for just 80% of unadjusted "restoration" as demanded by some here. APA? Only if you count leading the "B"-scale and being first to the concession stand this decade (with still nothing to show for it). Oh, ALPA kicked APA's butt in their last grievance over flows. IPA? Nearlyl 20 years of undercutting cargo rates and a higher dues structure (2.25%) than ALPA.

I'm sure I'll be told I have this wrong
No...you don't have it wrong. The ALPA folks that give you your talking points have it wrong.

Originally Posted by slowplay
Someone will point to substantial success somewhere, right?
You could point to it if ALPA would include it in your talking points. UPS leading the industry in pay. APA, never bankrupt and pensions intact.

Carl
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