Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat

Dawgs...While I don't work for CAPA, I do work closely with some of their folks and others, so I may be able to provide some insight.

In my opinion, the fundamental difference between the groups is that one is a group of individual pilot groups that work together to support common goals and one is a holder of collective bargaining rights for numerous carriers. The autonomy of the individual groups within CAPA allows them to independently run their own business (CBA's) while getting support from others within the group. The group works to support each other on the common industry matters (pilot experience, FT/DT, pension and bankruptcy reform, etc.,).

In terms of support in DC, there is tremendous value when you can reach out as CAPA has done, to form coalitions with other airline labor groups on common concerns, as was done recently with the formation of the "American Aviation Labor Alliance."

The AALC is comprised of CAPA and it's member airlines, IBT, TWU and others and is designed to work together on issues of common interest...like bankruptcy and pension reform.

Whether we as pilots wish to believe it or not, "no man is an island" applies to our profession. We must work with other labor groups to find areas of mutual belief and support. We may think we can stop an airline, but in today's de-regulated environment; we likely can't do it alone. It's the support from and for others that will strengthen our hand.

ALPA was invited to join the AALC. They refused, citing the fact that other unions were involved and they would have nothing to do with CAPA unless the member carriers agreed to join ALPA. I'll leave that one to you to digest.

So CAPA is independent. With carriers like American, SWA and others who seem to be doing OK without ALPA telling them how to run things. Are they perfect? No. Is anyone? The difference is that they have the support of the 1.6 million members of the IBT (whose Airline Division alone has grown by 35% in the past two years to over 65,000), and other labor unions. And are seen on the Hill as a strong and unified voice for all...not just some.

In the end, it may not be your cup of joe. For others to dismiss it simply because they are not members of ALPA is foolish.

As foolish as dismissing those of you who voice legitimate concerns over your own issues and are simply told to go to cooperate and graduate because anything else is suicidal.