ALPA language:

"The proposal does not assess the effects of increasing the amount of block time in a duty period up to 10 hours." IOW, door is open and we already offered up 9, so we really don't have a leg to stand on in holding the line on 8.

Compare that to CAPA language:

"CAPA supports a “hard” limit of 8 hours of block time for a non-augmented crew." IOW they go the other way and actually strengthen what is already there by making it 8 hours hard. ie. no more legal to start, legal to finish. At 8 hours of flight time, the merry-go round stops.

http://www.capapilots.org/Websites/c...ts_Oct2010.pdf

Now of those two responses, which one actually supports the intent of the new rules. They are being changed to REDUCE fatigue. Offering up 9 hours doesn't reduce fatigue. Whamby bamby language also leaves the door wide open. But you ALPA supporters keep crowing the "I told you so attitude" and "see ALPA really does support us" because we all can go to the source as well and read. ALPA doesn't represent me, plain and simple.