Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Bar, you make a ton of great points over the last few pages.
WRT DAL's 1113C proceeding, at the end of the day, the pilots voted for it. Saying that one organization over the other would have done differently is 1) convenient, and 2) hearsay.
Pilots are stating that their "union" told them to vote this way. Well, yes they did. I say quit faulting your union, we all seem to have type "A" personalities when it suits us and portray little sheep being lead to slaughter when it doesn't. Think freely, and vote your conscience, not what someone tells you to do. Changing a name plaque will not change the way pilot group votes.
What a silly characterization of reality. This could only be spoken by someone who wasn't involved at the time. The name plaque is a big deal when that same name plate uses extreme scare tactics against its members. Nobody was a sheep. ALPA issued a bunch of "facts" that we now know was mostly their "opinons." Those "facts" talked about going over the abyss. You were still flying RJ's lamenting about the loss of your longevity at Delta...the airline you weren't even hired at yet.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Like many have wrote, before anything can really happen here, one must change the apathy here. Change that and whomever the association's name is, it will result in a better trend.
For the thousandth time, it's not apathy. It's the realization that ALPA refuses to change. Nobody has the time to waste trying to change an organization that will not change. There's certainly nothing apathetic about the drive to change from ALPA. If you weren't so hopelessly in love with ALPA no matter what, you could see this for yourself.
Carl