(originally posted by TheManager)I never made any statements about the claim. You did. I will say nice job on DALPA's part, but they were almost too singularly focused on that.

The claim was compensation for the concessions. The concessions were for a 3.5 year period and were valued at $280m/year. The claim paid out over $1.2B in cash for those concessions and they paid out almost immediately after bankruptcy. I think I'd rather have the money up front then a snap back, particularly when it never snaps back.

On that note...be sure to give credit where it is due on the final pay out number. If it were not for Uncle Doug, the price of the notes would've been way less. It always leaves a nasty taste in my mouth when the folks that got us that # claim it was due to any other reason than that. Again, don't get me wrong, glad we got it, but don't stretch the truth with revisionist history

Then you ought to know that the value of the Note was always fixed at $650m. Had nothing to do with Doug Parker.

They left ALPA unfortunately to try and circumnavigate the Nicolau Award. Not working out as they left for the wrong reasons.

Let's ask SWAPA, UPS, et all how things are.

And despite working for companies that have been consistently profitable they've never matched the contracts ALPA produced with UAL and DAL. How's Kalitta, Miami Air, Horizon Air, Southern Air, ABX Air, Atlas Worldwide, Polar, Cape Air, Gulfstream Air, Omni Air, USA 3000, and US Airline Pilots Association (US Airways) doing?

Aren't Horizon, Cape Air and Gulfstreem commuter airlines? Conflict of interest? Don't some first officers at Gulfstream pay for the priviledge of flying for Gulfstream?

How about FDX and CAL, why did they come back?

Fact, If DAL does go independant, and DAL does join CAPA, they just became the largest pilot lobbying group in the US. How about ALPA PAC then?

DAL pilots are already part of the largest pilot lobbying group in the world, as well as the largest pilot union in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the co-chair of the ARC working on the new flight time/duty times is an ALPA pilot, not a CAPA pilot. There are 7 ALPA pilots on the ARC including the co-chairman, CAPA I believe only has 4 representatives who apparently only attend some of the meetings.

ALPA, it appears, provides services that CAPA can't match, why else would the APA approached ALPA for help with their negotiations. I've not heard of too many ALPA pilot groups asking CAPA for help with EF&A or other services. Does CAPA even do that, what about an MCF, do they have one?