Originally Posted by
PCL_128
Well said. If the people here who are supporting the DPA were in the hot seat and actually had to make the tough decisions, they would also pick option 2, but since they're nothing more than keyboard commandos, they can fire shots from the sidelines and act like tough guys. The reality of actually having to lead in order to improve the lot of the piloting profession is quite different than sitting behind a keyboard and writing angry forum messages about ALPA.
CAPA is showing the way of how it should be done. Clearly stand up for what is right, and not surrendering before things begin. ALPA could learn a lesson if they weren't so hopelessly arrogant.
Originally Posted by
PCL_128
That's exactly right. There will be a net increase in pilot jobs under ALPA's proposed FT/DT rules, not a reduction.
Factless feelings and emotions only. You have no idea whatsoever. And it should have nothing to do with a FATIGUE NPRM anyway.
Originally Posted by
PCL_128
Cohen, Weiss & Simon is not a law firm of professional negotiators. They are litigators, scope experts, DFR experts, etc. ALPA does, however, employ dozens of professional negotiators. The Director of Representation has been negotiating pilot contracts since 1979. That's all he does for a living. Good luck finding someone with more experience.
It will be difficult to find a firm more afraid of litigation, and a stronger proponent of surrender in order to "live and fight another day."
Originally Posted by
PCL_128
Call your congressman and ask him if he knows who CAPA is. After he says "cap what?," ask him if he knows who ALPA is. He'll probably talk about how he just spoke with ALPA recently on one issue or another. CAPA is a nobody in DC. They always will be. The way they conduct business ties their hands too much to ever be effective. That won't change, regardless of whether the DAL pilots were to join.
Factless feelings and emotions on your part.
Originally Posted by
PCL_128
They aren't "assimilated," Carl, they become educated on what's actually going on, what the law is, what the case law is, what the bargaining history is, etc. After they get all of the facts (because they were too lazy to do so before running for office), they finally realize that their union was right all along, and they start supporting it rather than throwing grenades from the sidelines. I know, because I was one of those guys years ago before I ran for office the first time. You learn quickly.
No, others resign in disgust when they see the self serving bureaucracy that is ALPA national. Others believe in bureaucracy and feel they've finally found their home.
Originally Posted by
PCL_128
Sorry, but that's false. The APA signed a services agreement with ALPA to pay ALPA for services to assist them in their negotiations.
It's an agreement between APA and ALPA to cooperate instead of compete. ALPA will now have the same access to the decades of experience from APA. It is NOT APA coming to ALPA for help on how to negotiate their contract.
Carl