Okay, I get it. This thread is a laundry list of ALPA issues. Does anyone actually have any info about DPA or what they are doing or is this entire thread a waste of space? 200+ pages of why-I-hate-ALPA (or DALPA) and almost no actual posts on what DPA is doing. Is this even worth it's own thread if there's no relevant DPA information here to discuss? I say bring on the DPA talk or move on. This is the same four or five people talking to each other and rapidly losing focus. Time for lunch.