It will take 3 days just to get the "definitions" section TA'ed...Pinnacle WILL NOT give up terms like "when possible" and "operational necessity" and "company will make it's best efforts"."

I'll steal a line from Battlestar Galactica--"All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again."

9E ALWAYS agrees to one or two things just before a stretch of negotiations end. It's the cliffhanger method of ensuring the other party comes back to the table next time you want them to, so you can maintain the illusion of progress.

I've been saying it since day 1 of this JCBA thing--the company had an entire year to formulate their plan, and their initial plan was NOT a joint contract or a single certificate. It is still not their plan TODAY. When our 3 MEC's went to them to propose the JCBA thing, 9E management saw the opportunity to buy themselves 3-12 months away from section 6 with 9e and new contract negotiations with 9L..."oh--you guys wanna get a JCBA? Sure...we'll just ditch the two certificate plan our lawyers and executives spent a year formulating and pay you all way more than we pay you now...NBD!!!!"

Yeah right...I'm just wondering how many times we'll keep agreeing to extensions before we finally get our heads out of our rear ends and realize this was just a big sham to keep us flying through the holidays without picketing or disrupting travel...