I am not talking about managing your expectations, I am telling you to look at trends and not those of the last 10 years.

T-Not only looking at the WB super senior rates man, just saving typing space. 1113C took a huge chunk or progress from us. We all want it back, do not mistake that. If trends continue that may in fact be a better possibility.

I do bet that our new MEC takes a strong stance on making sure every pilot's voice and opinion is heard. With that data they will move forward. I think we all hope that all Delta pilots know what they want, but more importantly they are willing to not waiver off that position, they are not mutually exclusive.