No... the Delta pilots would have to go independent a la DPA or some other entity. I'm sure there are copyright laws or some other nonsense that would be infringed upon so I think that breaking off from the mother ship is undoable. Do I think it will ever happen? Unfortunately, no I don't. The vast majority of pilots don't want to know what alpa does, and more importantly, don't care, therefore it is the "no" vote that keeps the incumbent in power. My sincere desire is that this DPA movement actually makes ALPA national get off their lazy asses and pay attention to what it is they are doing to.. or more importantly NOT doing FOR the industry.

You second question begs a different answer. Somebody posted the best answer to the negotiators typical question of: "What are you willing to pay for that?" My answer from now on... ALPA National.