I think that most people don't deny the growth and competition factors post deregulation put a clamp on the good ole' days of being over paid, over sexed and under worked. An admirable goal to reattain in future contracts.

But here, this might explain the angst. Regardless of how we've gotten here, why is the following true and what can we expect next contract?



Because after reading things from pro-DALPA guys on this thread and from what an ALPA guy from Airtran (ironically about to be SWAPA with a huge pay raise) is that you shouldn't expect anything more. We'll be lucky not to take a pay cut while giving back section 1. Yeah! C2012, I hope our 744 drivers make at least 90% what a SWA 737 driver makes.

Really, this has nothing to do with DPA but rather just a big wow from those of us outsiders for so long who thought DALPA was the one got C2K rates KNOWING that Delta couldn't afford them and told Delta to park those damn 777s until you give us a rate. I mean I frankly thought I'd here more "okay guys, look us in the eyes, stick with us, we are going to get paid what we deserve! READY! HERE WE GO!"

Not RJs are good, scope relaxation isn't a bad thing, what are you willing to give up, that costs money, your expectations are out of line, blah blah blah.

Just disheartening to say the least.