Good thread, Ajax.

I can't speak to whether or not you guys are nuts, but there isn't a group of controllers I'd rather work with, that's for sure. What sector do you usually work?

I'll keep the V3-MAZIE thing in mind, but if the cap'n says ask for it, well...we need a secret giraffe call or something I can throw in so you know it's me asking and you can just ignore the request

Here's a question for you: I was recently talking with my buddy that flies a BE350, frequently into TEB. What is the best way to file into TEB coming from the south? It seems the typical routing is up V16 to DQO, MXE, then V3 around the west side of PHL. I've only been into TEB twice - in pistons - and that is what I got. I'm guessing there is no way to stay east of PHL, even at a higher alt? He and I looked at all the arrivals into the various airports up there (MMU, CDW, even EWR) and didn't see anything helpful (for TP's).