Carl;

RA made a comment that all airlines are debt own and controlled. Extrapolate that out. Furthermore, my banker buddies are very matter of fact about it.

Again, It is too early to state that restoration is too little or too much in 2012. Two quarters of profits is a start. I agree with you on one level, we should get paid what we are worth, but the second side of that, is currently the market forces (CH11) across the industry are stating that C2K wages and valuation are not what we are worth. Yes, we are worth a heck of a lot more, but given our confines of the NMB and RLA, other pilots compensation levels, etc, getting back to that in one leap will be no small feat.

As Sailing has stated, if that is the majority position I will support it fully. I too suspect that the majority position will be a lot different than what many on here think it should e. Change that opinion and support base, and the factors change.

For Clarification, I do not advocate or support a COLA adjustment for C2012. I do not even support a modest bump. We have a lot of ground to make up and where you and I differ is the means, not the ends. No one will ever state they do not want C2K rates. They just will question the likeliness of getting that in one cycle.

If anything, every pilot needs to fill this survey out.