Two quarters DAL88 does not make prove the plan will be successful going forward.

My guess is 2011 will be in the black but not to the extent this year was.

We do not get paid what we are worth. We get paid what we negotiate. Even if we demand it, we may not get it if it makes the (for profit) company's solvency come in to question. With CH11 and the previous five years as an example, the only way a single step to these pay raises happens, is if all of the major players go play golf one day and think that it is a good idea

Until you can make pilot costs a fix cost across the industry it is going to very hard for any airline to willfully agree to price itself out of many of its markets. Many investors want 10%+ margins to continue to finance an airline. (Suspect they will be happy with 5-7%) but the reality is that as a whole the industry and this profession face stiff headwinds.


The Manager:
I see where you are going with your idea. I makes a lot of sense on the surface, and could be something that is looked at if we opt to change the current formulas. It at least as a static valuation to it.


DAL88;
My person assumption is that DAL can afford at least 1.5-2 times the total raises we got under the JPWA on day one. That is my assumption, and does not include work rule changes.