Where in any of what I posted did I state that I want to "trade your job for a huge pay raise."

Simply not true.

It is painfully obvious that this is what you are afraid of. I have no idea which group you are from. Pnwa, pdal, very junior, moderately junior...it does not matter. Fact is, the majority of pilots at the current Delta fall into a distinct demographic. This demographic saw many furloughed in the Ron Allen blood letting and of course the FM 1 & 2 group. Many at pmDelta witnessed the Bill Brown era of senior pilots carving themselves out benefits that enriched them and urinated on everyone else. Not a glorious era for DALPA, regardless, the majority understands your concerns and fears. They lived and survived. You will to if you unfortunately find yourself furloughed.

No one here wants to kill the golden goose that lays the eggs. However, we have been contributing to the care, feeding and pampering of this goose for several years now since its self induced illness aka chp 11. Now that the goose is healthy and pooping golden eggs it is time now to recognize our labors so that we can properly provide for our families and futures. When it comes to negotiating our pay and benefits, to say that we do not compare to SWA/AT because of our network is myopic at best. We definitely should compare ourselves to them and will.

Finally, we have to trust those that provide EF&A to which ever group that is representing us during negotiation. However, we must verify as well as trust and think critically. This provision of not having con papers is ridiculous....almost like ditching presidential debates before the election. Note to self and others who want to fix ALPA from within...roll that one back with a coordinated resolution effort to return thoughtful debate and pro/con presentations.

Not doing so is to allow complete control of whatever message that is put forth.