Carl;

Let me set you straight on one thing. I want you to get everything you can. I do think the days of scutteling the bottom of the list are over though. With career FO's and guys that could not upgrade if they wanted to, the demands have changed.

Loss of a DB, Scope(all not just SJ) and the CH11 gutting of the PWA's has resulted in a need for a lot of improvement in many areas. Hindsight is always 20/20, and we are faced with a difficult road. Being one of the largest airlines, and the fact that we need to work within the RLA and with the NMB means we need to be smart about everything we do. It does not mean we need to like it, just that we need to deal with it the best we can. That is why I think it is at least prudent to look at a two pronged approach. We may opt not to use it, but it is only responsible of our union to see if there is a way to put more money in everyone's pocket sooner. (Most importantly the guys that will need to retire in the next seven years or so)