Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Carl;
I no class warfare here. I know what you are talking about, but look no further than some of the posts around ours to see what guys are saying.
It does happen. Lots of scope was sold for gains in previous contracts. Even you admit that huts the bottom.
Either way, I think Satch's point is that he prefers to see DAL grow, not stagnate because if is not allowed to gain funding for aircraft because of its commitments else where. Makes sense on many levels, but it does not take away the need to recoup the bone cutting cuts that were forced on both permerger groups in 1113C.
We do not differ on where we need to go, and heck I may end up agreeing that it is X or bust, but as I have previously stated, we need to look at a two pronged approach to see which one gets us to where we ultimately want to be the quickest.
What I think everyone (on these forums) understands is that scope sales, agreed to by a majority, were a HUGE mistake. On this topic, it should be our role as we approach section 6 to re-educate our colleages on the REAL danger and mistake WE brought upon ourselves. I fully expect the company to re-test this tactic in contract negotiations ...WE MUST realize that this is a red herring. The only response can be NO.
There is an element of class warfare too, but it isnt a senior, and therefore rich versus a junior, and therefore poor issue. There is a great deal of airline mistrust and union understanding among the senior ranks. I only fly with senior folks. There is a great amount of knowledge and history to be gained from these people wrt the "union." Commuter folks probably have their own history on this topic, but ex-military have a great deal to learn. (Speaking from personal experience.)
When folks badmouth DPA, which is a diversion of attention, they are really demonstrating their fear of change. I am generally a pro-DALPA person, it is with this same openmindedness that I approach the whole DPA topic. Delta pilots helping delta pilots. After all, our unions will always be run and populated by the same or similar minded pilots in either model. Generally folks who stepped up because they got fed up and though it was something worth fighting for.
Some of the best advice I ever received in my life was so simple: "Always try to see the big picture." Way too often, on these boards and in our union, that advice needs to be reinforced. Too many of us operate from an ignorant and self-centered view point of how does this affect (just and only) ME. A lot of angst and backpeddling could be avoided if we just made sure we were true to these concepts.
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